Mr. T[aylor] — For instance, referring to the government of the United States; do you believe that its Constitution is binding upon Congress and upon the Supreme Court?

Mr. H[ollister] — Yes, sir.

Mr. T[aylor] — Then, although I am sorry to say it, yet I believe that both of these exalted branches of the government have violated their most sacred obligations to sustain that instrument.

( Source: Hollister 6 )