Comments on: Philosophy Vs. Conspiracy… My Response

By: Cory

Cory — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:56:22 +0000

More details at:

Plagiarism of the Devil’s Secret Society lifted from: The Book of Mormon

http://d1.scribdassets.com/ScribdViewer.swf?document_id=49567641&access_key=key-jo591sb9nd55zgvxemb&page=1&viewMode=list

By: Lundbæk

Lundbæk — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:06:32 +0000

That was a good response, John. I am finding that the commandment in the D&C to awake to a sense of our awful situation and suffer not that the murderous combinations get above us is not enough to awaken but a very few who are already awakened to some extent. Even President Packer’s words about awakening to our awful situation in the article in the August Ensign (Pg 23) are taken by many as a warning only against conspiracies to destroy our religious belief and faith.

By: John Redelfs

John Redelfs — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:10:01 +0000

On a gospel discussion email list that I have run since November 1993, a member told me that I should not focus on politics or my “gospel hobby” of freedom and the Constitution. Instead I should focus on teaching the gospel. I sent him this from Ezra Taft Benson:

“There is no excuse that can compensate for the loss of liberty. Satan is anxious to neutralize the inspired counsel of the prophet and hence keep the priesthood off balance, ineffective, and inert in the fight for freedom. He does this through diverse means, including the use of perverse reasoning.

“For example, he will argue, “There is no need to get involved in the fight for freedom-all you need to do is live the gospel.” Of course this is a contradiction, because we cannot fully live the gospel and not be involved in the fight for freedom.

“We would not say to someone, “There is no need to be baptized-all you need to do is live the gospel.” That would be ridiculous because baptism is a part of the gospel. How would you have reacted if during the War in Heaven someone had said to you, “Look, just do what is right; there is no need to get involved in the fight for free agency.” It is obvious what the devil is trying to do, but it is sad to see many of us fall for his destructive line.”

By: Angela DiGiovanni

Angela DiGiovanni — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:54:08 +0000

Great article, Brian. I’ve struggled with credibility when discussing so called conspiracy theories. I finally decided that I’d rather promote true and eternal principles rather than come off as a ‘conspiracy nut’. I agree that both sides are important and that whatever ‘gets people in the door’ is all good. I love to study both, but have found to be better equipped knowing the truth, as it helps me recognize the counterfeit.

By: Mitch van Biljon

Mitch van Biljon — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:21:53 +0000

In my view we should simply analyze the activities in DC as that is where our greatest threat to our freedom will arise. When leaving south africa in 1996 I warned the south african people that communism was not dead and I was ridiculed by many for that view. There are too many in the US who are not able to define let alone identify communism and socialism.

I probably over simplify the issue but the Constitution is of God and communism is of satan. If we understand the war in heaven then we should understand the battle here on earth and tthe role that the communists in DC ar eplaying to destroy this nation .

The federal reserve is the financial arm of the secret bodies that seek the overthrow of our Constitutional form of government.

By: Zack

Zack — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:43:17 +0000

what about conspiracy’s like these..
-death panels
-the birthers
-blaming liberals for the economy
-blaming government on the housing crash
-Claiming Obama is a muslim extremist
-telling people this country is center-right

hmmmmm. now those are some conspiracy’s that you should really look into espically since none of them are even close to being true.

By: Eric Checketts

Eric Checketts — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:51:17 +0000

Very well written article. I am just grateful that every day, I seem to meet more people who are concerned about the cause of freedom. May we all be blessed to see true freedom restored, some day in this mortal life!

By: Mike Leavitt

Mike Leavitt — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:56:21 +0000

I am brand new to this site and this is my first offering. First of all, what a GREAT site!! There seems to be a lot of really great thinkers here and I hope I can contribute an idea or two.

I have a pretty simple point. (Although, I hope not simplistic.) It is that although the word “conspiracy” is such a charged word it is clear from both observations and the scriptures that there certainly IS a conspiracy authored by Satan to destroy man’s souls. Just like the communists in Soviet Russia, Satan has his own brand of “useful idiots” who have (normally unwittingly) joined into his Kabal and Satan uses different tactics for these “idiots.” For example, in America, probably the best tool is greed. As proof, check this out:

http://www.thinkbigworksmall.com/mypage/player/tbws/23088/1162189

In the big picture, this video is not a huge deal, but anyone who watched the video would agree that there is a conspiracy involved, and it is a conspiracy to further Satan’s plan, even in a smallish way.

Other “useful idiots might” be motivated by power or 72 virgins, or whatever, the point is somehow all these little (or big) conspiracies work together to undermine God’s Plan for each of us.

By: aharon smith

aharon smith — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:27:02 +0000

What an interesting thread. I have learned much. While I have been known to watch Alex jones and I did see the Zeitgeist video, I try to stay away from conspiracy theories because like mentioned here, I find myself forming some sort of addiction to them from the sensational feelings I get speculating on them. Its like a darkness sorrounds me and I catch myself being enticed by it. I dunno, its hard to explain. It ends up with feelings of hopelessness and despair and mistrust towards anything going on.

However, when I study the principles of freedom and study books like 5000 year leap and bios of the founders, I get a feeling of clarity and peace as well as empowerment that I too can have the character traits that those men had.

I try to focus on those and I think that the best way to inspire our neighbors and our nation with a love of liberty is to focus on the principles. While it is important to know the truth and I am sure there are conspiring groups in our nation working to undermine freedom, I fear that if we focus too much on the darkness, that we can destroy the very freedom we are trying to protect, as what happened in the French Revolution blood bath, the red scare of senator McCarthy era, and what happened with Timothy McVeigh.

Showing our neighbors the soundness of free principles is the key to waking them up and wanting them to vote in people who will really emit change. The argument against socailism should be based on the principle the government cannot produce like a business, but only distribute and if we undermine our producers, then there is less pie for all and also emphasize the importance of taking care of the poor and needy from private sectors of society.

Anyways, I don’t want to keep rambling on, but i , along with the help of David Pangrec wrote a blog on the subject. Feel free to check it out. Sorry, I am responding from my phone so it is hard for me to get you the exact link, but you can go to ShopInnovent.com/blog and scroll down to the article entitled “Why Conspiracy Theories are Destroying the Freedom Movement”

Thanks all for your comments.

By: scott

scott — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:03:06 +0000

Freedom is the first principle of eternity. Our God is the principle defender of freedom and we placed our trust in him to ultimately do what he promised He could do–protect our freedom from all enemies. It is our duty to study and learn about freedom and it is wisdom to head the warnings contained in scripture that describe the entities in our day that want to destroy our freedom. These scriptures warn us about modern day conspiracies bent on the destruction of individual freedom , but what good is a warning if we are not listening. Anyone who prayerful studies and searches will be led to understand the truth in precisely the way that leads them to perform their role in defending freedom.